Moving to Github

Topics: General
Aug 6 at 3:36 PM
I just want to put this thread elsewhere than in a Spam thread.
I was in the meeting yesterday and I've listened about the reasons why we should stay with Codeplex. So the main reason is that Codeplex has a Forum feature ; wich Github does'nt have.

Now I've been looking around to find solutions since yesterday. First, we can't export these forums so it's not an option. Could we close the Forums and prevent people from making threads and replies then?

Also, concerning having another forum. I think http://orchardpros.net/ is actually doing that in a better way. Maybe missing all the post from here but it's a forum that actually can set links to external URL's like Codeplex issues or Github issues on threads.

Even though you guys would get all the threads and posts from here. When you will switch to Github, all the external links to Codeplex issues that have been written in posts will still be in those posts. So there is not point into getting back all those posts if they are "out of context". I would suggest keeping the Codeplex website up only for search purposes ...

If you never move ; people will also never really adopt fully http://orchardpros.net/ ...

My humble opinion. Don't want to be a trouble maker. Just mind thinking it in here.
Developer
Aug 6 at 7:57 PM
Although I'm obviously biased, I do like that idea a lot. The goal of orchardpros.net is to be the place to go to for Orchard knowledge and expertise.
On the other hand, having a forum on the official Orchard website (that @ShaunLuttin is designing) might make more sense.

The nice thing about owning our own discussion board is that we have everything in a single place. The downside might be that maintaining our own forum module adds more overhead.
Developer
Aug 6 at 9:19 PM
I like OrchardPros... But doesn't it need a general discussion "Content Type", instead of the question answer kind?

One thing that I wish people wouldn't do that would make OrchardPros better.
People will write a post here. Create a post on StackOverflow 5 minutes later and OrchardPros 20 minutes after that.
Aug 6 at 9:21 PM
That's why I thought about http://orchardpros.net/ ; because for making a good forum it needs someone to maintain it (the code).
And it would remove the overhead to manage it on the Orchard website. And also, maintain the informations in a single place instead of 3.
I see it like a hybrid system between knowledge base and forum.
Developer
Aug 6 at 9:21 PM
It absolutely does need that, together with a bunch of other additions and improvements. We have it on our list of things to do.
Aug 6 at 11:04 PM
Edited Aug 6 at 11:05 PM
I just send this, but you probably already know discourse ? It's opensource, and they also have a hosted offer.

It's just an idea (but integration with the new website will certainly only be visual, see newrelic for example in their FAQ).
Coordinator
Aug 7 at 12:18 AM
LAst time we checked, discourse was not free, there is a setup fee for them to install it on Digital Ocean, then we pay for the hosting. Which means we can't host it on our own server.
Aug 7 at 2:22 AM
Edited Aug 7 at 2:27 AM
Orchard uservoice should not be too far from this too.
https://orchard.uservoice.com/forums/50435-general
We need to dig far to get to that feature voting website.
Maybe this could be something else that we could see on Orchard Pros website.
The UI is almost the same.

Although Sebastien, if you say that you want/need it on www.orchardprojet.net then the only solution is making this forum module work. Wich is the most voted for feature...
Also, I don't think you would like to play around with yetanotherforum.net. If the idea is to have it integrated within Orchard.
Aug 7 at 8:03 AM
Edited Aug 7 at 8:11 AM
sebastienros wrote:
LAst time we checked, discourse was not free, there is a setup fee for them to install it on Digital Ocean, then we pay for the hosting. Which means we can't host it on our own server.
Yes, but it also opensource. It requires postgresql, redis and ruby.

The official installation guide uses a docker package. I know that support for docker on azure VHD is supported through VM extensions.

azure-cli project on github list "create and manage docker host virtual machines" as a feature, and there is a docker section in the readme so I suppose it is now officially supported.

All of this still seems to be very experimental, but it could be an interesting test :).

Perhaps I will do it myself, to check if it's feasible or not...
Coordinator
Aug 7 at 5:02 PM
in terms of flexibility YAF.net could be a better solution as the website and the forum would be independent beasts. We could also have two orchard instances for the same website (tenants) and this way the user accounts/authentication would not be shared, which could make sense.
Aug 7 at 6:57 PM
I don't know if YAF is reliable. I'm not a fan of it; since it's not made with the MVC framework. I would say patience is a virtue on that one. I think http://www.mvcforum.com/ could also work.
Developer
Aug 8 at 3:06 PM
Some Azure VMs seem to exist with Discourse already installed :
https://bitnami.com/stack/discourse/cloud/azure
http://vmdepot.msopentech.com/Vhd/Show?vhdId=43524
Aug 8 at 3:54 PM